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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby L4DIIJoK3r » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:10 am

Shin Gatsurai wrote:You able to lend me your russian tag for 5 mins' so I don't have to bother making a fresh account?


I don't have a Russian account, the game is about 300 hours to complete and I already have Angry birds on iOS
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby Kez001 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:31 pm

zzUrbanSpaceman wrote:
Shin Gatsurai wrote:You able to lend me your russian tag for 5 mins' so I don't have to bother making a fresh account?


That won't work. The game will be tied to the first console it's downloaded on, and as such you'd need to sign in that particular tag every time you wanted to play it.


In my experience, if I recover my gamertag onto my girlfriend's console and download a game, it ties it to both her console AND my tag....so anyone on her console can play it and I can redownload it on my own console. It's handy for the occasional game we wanna play in co-op but don't wanna buy two copies and it's also handy when I decide I wanna play games that she's downloaded in the past. It's probably not the best thing in the world ToS-wise, but it saves me money.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby zzUrbanSpaceman » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:54 pm

Kez001 wrote:
zzUrbanSpaceman wrote:
Shin Gatsurai wrote:You able to lend me your russian tag for 5 mins' so I don't have to bother making a fresh account?


That won't work. The game will be tied to the first console it's downloaded on, and as such you'd need to sign in that particular tag every time you wanted to play it.


In my experience, if I recover my gamertag onto my girlfriend's console and download a game, it ties it to both her console AND my tag....so anyone on her console can play it and I can redownload it on my own console. It's handy for the occasional game we wanna play in co-op but don't wanna buy two copies and it's also handy when I decide I wanna play games that she's downloaded in the past. It's probably not the best thing in the world ToS-wise, but it saves me money.


I'm pretty sure you'll find that one of those consoles won't play the game at all if you don't have the profile that downloaded it signed in. Game and DLC will get cryptographically signed to first console it's downloaded on, typically, although I think there is a setting somewhere where you can define a "primary" console (on xbox.com) but I haven't dug around for it.

It might be that the games you're referring to got signed against your gf's console, and you're always signed in on your own console, so no problem. This won't be the same situation for a dummy account that is being shared between two geographically diverse consoles.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby L4DIIJoK3r » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:01 pm

The way I always thought it worked was that the console it was purchased and downloaded onto first gave rights for everyone to play it, then any other console to access it would only be usable for the person who purchased it in the first place. Then with certain stuff you were able to access DLC when the person who bought it was the main account, such as being able to get the DLC achievements in Halo reach as long as the person who owns them is the main profile.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby DeceptiCog72283 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:27 am

Is this stackable? (I don'tthink it is). I already bought a disc copy of this game for my gf for xmas...but if it's stackable...it might be worth downloading again lol
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby L4DIIJoK3r » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:41 am

DeceptiCog72283 wrote:Is this stackable? (I don'tthink it is). I already bought a disc copy of this game for my gf for xmas...but if it's stackable...it might be worth downloading again lol


Nope, it only has one stack.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby schrut3b33ts » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:20 am

I woke up to a console ban today I have never pirated games the only thing I have done to warrant this is download games with the Oman marketplace glitch. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby zzUrbanSpaceman » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:24 am

schrut3b33ts wrote:I woke up to a console ban today I have never pirated games the only thing I have done to warrant this is download games with the Oman marketplace glitch. Has this happened to anyone else?


Assuming the ban isn't for something else that happened to be coincident, yours would be the first legitimate case I've heard of.

I suggest taking it up on the Xbox support forums first and find out what the clause was that you were banned under.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby schrut3b33ts » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:47 am

I don't know what else it could be my gamer tag isn't banned I've never done anything to modify my console in anyway and I've never had code of conduct issues
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby spankynspronkle » Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:04 am

Hopefully this doesn't come around to more people... but I have a feeling it might.

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox ... 89405.aspx
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby Topdogs » Wed Sep 25, 2013 1:37 pm

-Utilizing fraudulent methods in order to obtain region-specific marketplace content or circumvent regional pricing


This is why I have always said free is not always free. Don't steal guys and gals. Even if you don't think its stealing its wrong and they got you.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby spankynspronkle » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:07 pm

Topdogs wrote:Even if you don't think its stealing its wrong and they got you.


No disagreement here. However, there is a major problem in how Microsoft is choosing to “punish” people.

The irony in the situation is that MSFT owns your tag and you own your console. Yet, they choose to brick your console instead of locking you out of your tag. It makes me wonder on the legality of the situation. Technically you violated the terms of service, so you should lose access to that service as a punishment. You shouldn't lose the right to use your hardware since Microsoft has no claim to it.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby schrut3b33ts » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:16 pm

I understand that it breaks the terms of service however it was also Microsofts mistake for allowing the free download of games in the first place.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby Topdogs » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:16 pm

Well I bet in their mind you still have your service as your box still works with games, just not online. If they banned tags people would just use an alternate tag. If they ban boxes people might feel the consequence more.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby XxB3asti3xX » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:52 pm

From what I have gathered looking into this it seems the people being banned are not banned because of personal use of this error. The ones banned have created tags to distribute to others or had others create tags for them. The first guy to claim this for the reason he was banned was latter found to be actively seeking pirated games on several websites that specialize in that type of stuff.

I'm not saying it isn't possible to get banned for it but with so few cases being shown and alternate reasons discovered for a majority of them I don't think this is really the cause.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby spankynspronkle » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:57 pm

Also, it's not like this is a new exploit... This type of thing has been done for years.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby zzUrbanSpaceman » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:13 pm

They aren't "bricking" consoles. They are banning them from Xbox Live. Which makes sense, because Xbox Live is the service, and the ToS (terms of service) were breached.

Any argument that setting up alternative region accounts is somehow legitimate is just silly. In fact of law, this is fraud - you are creating an account with false information for the purposes of accessing a service and content in a way that you wouldn't otherwise be able to.

Microsoft have generally let this slide, however given the recent batch of free games were also in some cases full price games (Injustice, the recently released XBLA games), I suspect that Microsoft might actually be feeling some pain here. Given most of us were setting up alternate region accounts to buy cheaper games and not get free games due to a glitch, we've generally slid under the radar. With the free games glitch, it's quite probable that Microsoft might be a bit pissed about this and would be locking out consoles.

They aren't locking out profiles because there would be no point. The vast majority of these profiles were bogus profiles anyway, and they couldn't reasonably ban every profile that ever used a particular console as they'd hit too many innocent parties.

BUT that said, this glitch was heavily spread around and used. It would surprise me if they were banning every console that used it, so I suspect that IF they are banning people for the off-region downloads, if will be in conjunction with other infractions. The reported instances so far that have been investigated have turned out to be due to other infractions.

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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby schrut3b33ts » Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:30 pm

I contacted xbox support about my ban but after reading the console ban forums I decided not to dispute the ban because I don't want to risk my profile getting a ban since I still have that. And the only thing I have done to break ToS is use the Oman marketplace glitch. I have never shared profiles or anything like that.
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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby Topdogs » Wed Sep 25, 2013 6:34 pm

Don't get me wrong I have got caught using the Bing Hack glitch. I got tons of free points but when they banned my four accounts doing it I understood. I asked they explained the TOS and I understood.


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Re: Xbox Live: Marketplace Freebies!

Postby Bulletproofryu » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:44 pm

just a thought, why were these games free in the first place, shouldn't they be sacking the people that set it up. unless microsoft employees were using an unpopular country so they could all exploit free games, maybe an employee who got fired let it leak as its not a normal thing for someone to just come across free games on a random country's tag, seems a bit suspicious. maybe microsoft should back off their customers and sort out the people that allowed it to happen
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